Picatinny Rails Vs Weaver Rails - Inside MDT (2024)

I'm old enough to remember when rifles didn't have rails for mounting optics. If that seems like it might have been confusing, let me assure you, it was. Every manufacturer had their own system for mounting scopes, and there wasn't much interchangeability. Names like Weaver, Redfield, Leupold, Conetrol, and Bausch and Lomb dominated the optics mounting world. Some of their products are now collector items, pushed out of popular use by the standardization of rail mounting systems we now take largely for granted.

WEAVER RAILS

Developed in the mid-70s by William Weaver, his system for mounting optics to rifles was once the closest thing to a standardized system. While the Weaver company did a fine job of keeping their tolerances tight there were no published specifications. As a result, products made by other manufacturers and intended to work with Weaver's system varied widely. It's still common to run into the Weaver optic mounting system today. A dead giveaway to the fact a rail is built for the Weaver system are rounded slots in the rail. However, square slots show up regularly as well. Regardless of shape, these slots are about 0.14-0.16 inches wide, and there are often only two slots on a full-length rail. Weaver rails are also commonly seen as two short sections which mount separately. There are no specifications for the distance between slots.The Weaver system became the most popular of those available at the time, and even the military tried using it, but with limited success.

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The Weaver rail system was state of the art in its day and is still often encountered, especially on older rifles.

PICATINNY RAILS

Recognizing the shortcomings of the Weaver rail but recognizing its potential, the US military set out to build something better. This resulted in the Picatinny rail, the name springing from the fact it was developed by the Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey. Adopted into military use in 1995, it was designated as "MIL-STD-1913," with its NATO designation becoming "STANAG 4694 Accessory Rail." Often called a "Pic" rail or a "1913" rail, it has well-defined dimensions for all aspects. The slots, for example, are 0.206 inches wide and 0.394 inches center to center. The flexibility, standardization, and improved strength served the military's needs much better than any previous system.

As the NATO name suggests, it was originally designed to serve as a rail for optic mounting and as a means of mounting accessories, like lights and lasers, onto firearms. Its early use did indeed see this kind of application, but this has now largely been replaced by the M-LOK system, a design superior for most types of accessory mounting. And if a Pic rail is needed to mount an accessory, it can still be added using the M-LOK system. A good example is bipod mounting, where the Pic rail has some application. This is completely different from the Weaver system, which has never seen any wide use for accessory mounting.

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The Picatinny rail system is widely used in both civilian and military environments.

As with many military developments, the Picatinny rail found its way to the civilian world and is now the default standard for virtually all mounting of optics to rifles. A good example is the last air rifle I bought, which has an integral Picatinny rail machined into the receiver. For kicks, I measured the dimensions to see how close they are to the standard, and as far as I can tell, they are bang on.

CROSS COMPATIBILITY

This is a good place to take a side trip into the cross-compatibility of the two systems. It's a common issue because the two rails have quite similar profiles. The bottom line is that Weaver rings will often fit on a Picatinny rail, but Picatinny rings won't fit on a Weaver rail. This discrepancy exists largely because the tolerances of the Weaver system are so much looser than for the Picatinny system. However, just because a Weaver ring might fit on a Picatinny base doesn't make it a good idea. There can be issues. For example, the ill-fitting ring may not be centered over the rifle's bore, and this will cause serious issues at longer ranges. Additionally, it's common to see the bottom of a Weaver ring not supported by the top of a Picatinny rail. The image below shows the kind of gap that results in a loss of strength and stability that can exist in the mismatch. Yes, it "fits," but it's a poor fit and should be avoided.

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Weaver system rings will attach to a Picatinny base as shown here, but it's often a poor fit, sacrificing strength and rigidity.

And to wrap things up I'll just add a caution to beware of offshore manufactured rings and bases which are poor quality. These products are all over the internet, and quality is always suspect. A recent set of rings I saw demonstrate this well, as the buyer didn't pay much and got exactly that amount of quality.

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Al Voth calls himself a "student of the gun." Retired from a 35-year career in law enforcement, including nine years on an Emergency Response Team, he now works as an editor, freelance writer, and photographer, in addition to keeping active as a consultant in the field he most recently left behind—forensic firearm examination. He is a court-qualified expert in that forensic discipline, having worked in that capacity in three countries. These days, when he's not working, you'll likely find him hunting varmints and predators (the 4-legged variety).

Picatinny Rails Vs Weaver Rails - Inside MDT (2024)

FAQs

Is there a difference between a Weaver rail and a Picatinny rail? ›

The Weaver rails don't necessarily have consistent spacing between the grooves. Weaver systems have slots that are . 180” wide and have smaller slots than on a Picatinny.

Can I put a Weaver mount on a Picatinny rail? ›

Any weaver style mountwill work on both weaver style and picatinny rails, however, some manufacturers make picatinny specific mounts, and these mounts can only mount to a picatinny rail for a few reasons.

Are Picatinny and Weaver rails the same width? ›

Very few non-mil-spec mounts are actually sized to the larger Picatinny spec. ... if in doubt, just measure the cross bolts on the scope you have and see. For reference, “mil-spec” Picatinny rails will have a grove width of 0.206″ while Weaver rails typically have a narrower, 0.180″ groove width.

What is the spacing for Weaver rails? ›

Weaver rails have a slot width of 0.180 in (4.57 mm), but are not necessarily consistent in the spacing of slot centers.

What is the advantage of a Picatinny rail? ›

Versatility is a cornerstone of Picatinny rails. These rails can accommodate a wide range of accessories, including optics, lasers, lights, grips, and more. Shooters can configure their firearms to meet specific needs, whether it's for precision shooting, tactical applications, or recreational shooting.

Does the military use Picatinny rail? ›

Once established as United States Military Standard, its use expanded to also attaching other accessories, such as: iron sights, tactical lights, laser aiming modules, night vision devices, reflex sights, holographic sights, foregrips, bipods, slings and bayonets.

How much height does a Picatinny rail add? ›

Picatinny Rails are usually between 5-10mm, plus your Scope Rings, which are available in a wide range of heights from 5mm right up to 22mm.

What is the difference between a 0 MoA and a 20 MoA Picatinny rail? ›

A 0MOA base is considered flat, or level with the bore of the gun. A 20MOA base is canted down in the front toward the barrel. By canting the base down in the front, this is what allows for more usable elevation adjustment in the scope.

What can I use instead of Picatinny? ›

Weaver Rails

These rails are similar to Picatinny slots, but they differ in size and spacing. All Weaver rail slots are 0.18" across; however, the spacing between them can vary.

What is the most common Picatinny rail size? ›

Mastering the Picatinny rails: Tips and Tricks form Beginner to Expert
SpecificationMeasurement/Description
Rail WidthApproximately 0.835 inches (21.2 mm)
Slot DepthApproximately 0.118 inches (3.0 mm)
Slot WidthApproximately 0.206 inches (5.23 mm)
Center-to-Center Slot SpacingApproximately 0.394 inches (10.0 mm)
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Are all Picatinny rails universal? ›

Some manufacturers include an accessory rail, but don't use the Picatinny design. For instance, Glock handguns have their own proprietary rail design that is not interchangeable with the Picatinny rail. Luckily, many companies have designed their products to be compatible with both Picatinny rails and Glock rails.

Why are Picatinny rails numbered? ›

It mostly depends on the dimensions of the recoil lug. Picatinny rails are usually numbered so that optics can be attached at the same point after removal.

What size are the slots on a Weaver rail? ›

Weaver style

Weaver-style locking bars, while they do vary in width and shape, are ostensibly 0.149-inch wide (3.8 mm) to fit 0.180-inch (4.57 mm) slots.

Does Picatinny fit dovetails? ›

A: No, the Dovetail mount will Not fit the picatinny rail, you need the non dovetail.

What fits on a Picatinny rail? ›

The Picatinny rail, often referred to as a "MIL-STD-1913 rail" or simply "1913 rail," is a bracket used on firearms for mounting accessories, such as scopes, grips, bipods, and lights.

What is the alternative to Picatinny? ›

Weaver Rails

These rails are similar to Picatinny slots, but they differ in size and spacing. All Weaver rail slots are 0.18" across; however, the spacing between them can vary. But there's no need to fret; Weaver accessories understand this fact and are made to be flexible for slot spacing.

Why is it called a Picatinny rail? ›

Named after the Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey where the Picatinny rail was designed, developed, and later standardized as the MIL-STD 1913 rail in 1995.

Will Picatinny mount fit dovetail rail? ›

A: No, the Dovetail mount will Not fit the picatinny rail, you need the non dovetail.

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